"You serious Clark?" Penn State soccer is fairly decent, that would
have made for a happy riot. :-)
Your list is missing one of the best books I've ever read. The
psychology of the mob mentality, how it's borne, what if feeds off and
how it becomes a perpetuating entity and narrated from the inside.
"Among the Thugs" Buford.
Strongly recommended. I read it prior to the '94 World Cup which gave
me a different outlook of what the World game really entails and what is
riding on each team. The research was done from the inside during the
'90 World Cup in Italy, and poor, poor Buford, the ending was painful
from his perspective.
Soccer is like hockey -- if you don't understand the game, it's horrible
to watch, as it makes little or no sense.
That said, the hooliganism that takes place at and around soccer matches
is just plain disappointing. Hopefully as the sport continues to grow
in popularity in the US, that aspect of it will stay overseas.
Soccer is only like hockey if you remove the goaltenders. No wonder
there are riots at soccer games.... I'd riot if there was NO scoring!
But then again, I'm a bit biased since I'm from the 'state of hockey' :)
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:36:56 -0600, the notorious t-e-d
Hockey is just like Soccer, except those sissies wear pads and
Basketball should be more like Hockey. I meant the fouls in
basketball is such a joke, with good fouls, bad fouls, intentional
fouls, flagrant fouls, free fouls... It's all part of the stupid
game. Basketball should have a penalty box and force teams to play
short handed until the penalty time is killed off, and if a player is
ejected from the game, the team should have to play short handed for
the rest of the game.
Baseball, well, they need to put some sort of "shot clock" on the
pitchers, and penalize them severely for delay of game.
American Football has too many finicky little rules...
Team salary caps is an interesting idea, but they what they really
need to cap are ticket prices, say no more that twice the price of
seeing a local movie. They could also consider capping the weight of
football players, especially line men.
Soccer fields are not all that evil for rockets, unless there is a
game on. I find baseball/softball fields more evil because they have
permanent fences and backstops, etc.
Except in the case of the park in question - there are 17 soccer fields
on the north portion, which are reserved 24/7/365 for the soccer
association. You do not *dare* set foot on these fields either during
soccer season or during the off season ("field rest"). The soccer
association supposedly has a long-term lease on this portion (of a
We used to fly on the south 20 acres, but the new deal (which isn't
finalized yet) will give *ownership* of the land to the soccer
As far as we could ascertain, this was the only park land in the county
where model rocketry was legal. Once the soccer association gets it
they have stated that they will rent it to groups for use "not
imcompatible" with soccer, but 95% of the current field use is walk-on
individuals, not associated with any club. These are the ones that it
will hit the hardest.
There is a soccer park not too far from here. It was set up as soccer
only, and it was for awhile. Then adults wanted volley ball, and it was
created in a little corner. Then the baseball club said they had no
fields, so one was built. Then lacrosse became a fashion statement, and
lacrosse goals showed up and one field is lacrosse only. Now everything
but football and golf go on there.
Quite simply the squeaky wheel gets the grease, provided it's done
properly. Why they've even overturned agreements in wills around here
to have property used opposite of the former owner's wishes.
The plan, and the presentation must be top notch, the persons doing it
well spoken and it must be expected it will take some time. Parks are
owned by the people, not one group, regardless of the size. Unless, of
course, they purchase it and are owners for fair market value.
Around here, it's quite different -- a lot of the soccer fields are
privately owned, so they can restrict who uses them for what.
The LaVista soccer fields are where we hold low-power launches, when we
can schedule around someone else who's using the fields (they get used
for lots of things). The Omaha fields that are public are often in
parks and available for general use, as well.
Hell, the hooliganism ain't no big thang. Get some gullible tough guy
to wear a Giants shirt to an Eagles' game.....or Devils' shirt to a
Flyers' game.....the results are too predictable. Their shirt will have
a different aroma for the ride home. And not a particularly wonderful
I recall a Penguins shirt wearing fool at the old Spectrum.....they were
so brutal I sort of felt sorry for the guy for a split second.
Provincialism is the rule.
I played for years, and still find it a snoozer to watch. But I don't
watch any stick and ball games, so don't feel I am singling out soccer.
I find myself in agreement with Hemmingway: "There are only three
sports: bullfighting, motor racing and mountaineering; all the rest are
What's the matter son, ain't cha' never played baseball? BOY! Say you ain't
never played baseball? There's something kinda eeeewww about a boy that
ain't never played baseball.
Now keep ypour eye on the ball, eyeball get it? It's a joke son. Pay
attention when I'm talkin' to ya boy!
Now let's see you knock it right down my throat. WHACK Well, I say I asked
Ummmm, did I say I never played baseball? I played baseball for years
while growing up. Also played on the high school tennis team. Doesn't
mean I care to watch others play, though.
As I weighed about 125 soaking wet in HS, I did avoid football.
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