Hannants under threat?

Rob van Riel wrote in news:pan.2007.11.14.13.41.20.609000 @mail.com:

Name one branch of Chritianity that kills anyone for religious reasons today, especially one that kills with the barbarity and gusto of the Islamics. beheading and toturing captives, killing civilians, even women and children through bombings, even using children as carriers or bombs or as camoflage. I;ve heard more than one story where the cowardly towel heads drove up in a car bomb woth kids as cover and then g9ot out and ran leacing the kids to die.

Please cite even one example of such barbarity by a Christian today.

Frank

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Gray Ghost
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"Martin" wrote in news:fhehsf$sui$1$8300dec7 @news.demon.co.uk:

Why is that rude? I hear far more venom spewed at Christains by Atheists then the other way around.

Frank

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Gray Ghost

uuuuurrrrrpppp????

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someone

There you go, taking the fun out of it with the truth. Of course, perhaps Jules left something out....

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. ;)

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Mad-Modeller

Within living memory? Irish Catholics.

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Alan Dicey

I was going to leave this alone, but this was a direct challenge. Apologies to the rest of the group for letting this drag on..

I honestly don't have sufficient knowledge of what exactly constitutes a branch of any religion (I suspect there is no such thing as a precise definition), nor do I have the desire to ferret out just which branch various people clain to be part of. However, if you need examples of people killing for their Christian faith, hit some of the links on the pages below.

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I realise these are fringe characters, but that doesn't change the basic facts. If you want larger scale situations, look at the Northern Ireland troubles for example.

Lets not get into 'their atrocity is worse than ours' territory, shall we.

Now we're dropping the requirement that the atrocities be committed in the name of Chritianity. I suggest you read up on the past 50 or so years of South American history. Almost universally Christians, and plenty of horrors. Or if you want more recent, high profile situations, the crimes committed by (mostly) US troops and militias in Iraq.

Rob

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Rob van Riel

Haha this is true, last week in the bars in the city, i was farting for england, god knows what i ate but everyone thought it was a gas attack...it was really really REALLY BAD, but being a guy....

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Jules

all my brit punker friends say it's the chav's and the ted's fault. you blame them, too?

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someone

nah it was me, and i told em

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Jules

wowfab and patio lemur sez you weren't there.

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someone

yeah right....and what drugs you been on?

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Jules

oi and boots and braces. i smoke danny baker's stash.

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someone

Alan Dicey wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com:

Really? The Irish Catholics beheaded living people, flew airplanes into civilian buildings, strapped bombs on children, deliberately targeted women and children in the name of the Christian God?

Must have missed that one.

So sorry.

Frank

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Gray Ghost

Rob van Riel wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mail.com:

Abortion clinic bombings were:

1) rare 2) universally condemned by all Christian churches and fatihs 3) haven't occuredd in over 10 years

Sorry, doesn't equate with beheading live people and blowing up kids.

See previous reply.

Why not? Show me any other faith that kills as brutally and wantonly. People love to point at Christains but that was a long time ago and is not revered today as previous Islmaic massacres still are.

Not a bit of it was in the name of God. Mostly in the name of Communism, Socialism, tyranny and/or criminal enterprise. The people (victims) of these regimes may be Christian, but I doubt any of the groups I named even beleive in God let alone profess to be Christain, except in the most hypocritical way.

And you are just a fuckwad anyway if you are accussing US troops of atrocities and not worthy of any further serious consideration.

Frank

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Gray Ghost

It was down at Clancy's Pub last Friday. Clancy has dropped the three-for-one happy hour on boilermakers after the incident. :-D

Pat

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Pat Flannery

What? You have *never* seen a news report of the stuff that the eejit Irish (I'm at least 1/8th Cat-Lick Irish, so I know an eejit Irishman when I see one), both Cat-Lick and Proddy, have done to each other *and*

*themselves* in Northern Ireland over the last, oh, century or so?

Kneecappings, kidnappings, rape-as-punishment-and-for-blackmail, no end of good clean knifings, bombings, sniper attacks, and so on.

There are none so blind, etcetera...

Cheers, Gary B-)

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Gary R. Schmidt

"Gary R. Schmidt" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@paranoia.mcleod-schmidt.id.au:

Quite, I am aware of that barbarrism. But the main issue there was political. The fact that the 2 groups had differing views on religion was merely coincidence.

I have never seen anything where the violence was committed in the anme of God. Union, British expulsion, etc, yes, religion no.

This is not say scraps haven't occured over Protetant vs Catholic views, just that the underlying violence was never attributed to religion. You never heard them declaring Holy War against the other.

A considerable difference.

Frank

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Gray Ghost

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