Merry Christmas,

Did the owner of this ng die or something? Since no one's stepping up, I'll volunteer to be the moderator and keep these looneies from poluting. This is what happens when the courts stopped locking these nuts up for their own good and ours.

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I was thinking more along the lines of the creation the whole universe in

144 hours, in 4004 bce, by your infinitely powerful god, who somehow exhausted his infinite power so much that he had to rest the whole next day, then, because of his infinite wisdom and mercy, did practically nothing for the next 6011 years to help his beloved but instead condemed 6 billion females to suffer great pain in child birth because one woman disobeyed him, caused 12 billion people to unnecessarily suffer and toil for their daily bread because two people disobeyed him, then deliberately murdered untold millions of innocent men, women, children, babies and the unborn by creating out of thin air well over 1.4 million cubic miles of water, enough to raise the sea level to cover the peak of Mt. Everest....7+ miles in 40 days (that's 462 inches, or 38.5 feet of rain per hour). Meanwhile, Noe (aka Noah) and his family, being the only humans on the planet not unbelievably evil, constructed a wooden ship large enough to hold 2 of each of the 2 billion species living on the planet (minus those that can survive in salt water) and all of the food needed for the duration; the time it took for the water to evaporate and the sea level to return to normal...........but wait, that wouldn't work, the water just recycles as rain......??? Fast forward to the battle....was it Joshua?? ...when the Sun suddenly stopped and stood still, then later the same day suddenly started moving again........and a bajillion tons of dirt and rock and biomass instantly was torn lose and headed east at 1000 mph at the equator, (slower away from the equator, as the cosine function of the latitude, speed falling to zero at the poles), then a few hours later it repeated, everthing being flung westward at the same speeds. I guess that killed at least every creature on earth larger than a grain of sand, or don't you believe in the laws of physics either? Also, please enlighten us with your knowledge of the four corners of the world, the flat earth, everything in the universe revolving around the earth, the torture, mutilation, emolation and murder of hundreds of thousands if not millions of innocent people by the emmisaries Christ directed to lead and grow his Church, and the countless human suffering and early deaths that could have been avoided but for the centuries and knowledge supression by the Christians and others, continuing to this day; the living proof being you. Given that no one gets to the Judeo Christian heaven but through the Roman Catholic Church, and at that, probably not one in a thousand Roman Catholics are going to make it...........I hope for your sake you picked the right God and Church, given that there are well in excess of 60,000,000 different Gods.

I'll bet you won't :-)

Not even close Einstein. Take humans for instance. 6 billion on the planet. Each is different inside and out in countless little ways, so different that you can tell them all apart by a simple glance. Let's say they are each different in 100 ways, there are 6 billion of them, and they reproduce at 4 generations per century. If the population is held constant (say, because of a limited food supply), that equals

24,000,000,000,000,000 variations per million years. Now, since the human case is bogus because of cultural interferences where the best and brightest societies are having the least children, let's use the same numbers for any other animal population. A tiny tiny percentage of these variations will be beneficial to the individual so as to create a tiny advantage to survive long enough to reproduce. Conversely, a small percentage will be detrimental, resulting in fewer or no offspring, and the bad variations tend to die out fairly quickly. The vaste majority don't make a difference either way, or at least we don't know enough to see the differences in the short couple of hundred years humans have been studying these things. Add to that the increasing knowledge that has brought forth the refined evolutionary theory of punctuated equilibrium, where, when times are good and the climates balmy and food is aplenty, things stay pretty constant, but when there is climatic upheaval, the stress to survive amplifies in advantaged and disadvantaged individuals and brings about a more rapid change.

OK, just kidding :-) We all know that the whole universe, including the flat square Earth standing still at the center, is only 6011 years old, and that every creature on it, including white chickens and turkeys so fat they can't fly, dairy cows with humongous udders, thorobred race horses, siamese fighting fish available in 6 different colors, french poodles, blue parakeets, 1000 pound pigs, 100 varieties of roses, miniature tomatoes and ears of corn 10 inches long were all here the 1st week the universe existed.

The negative mutations diminish that chances of survival and reproduction. That's why there is no gay gene.

You really need to read more than one book. I would doubt the compostion of feathers and scales are all that different. Plus, the first tiny feather mutation may have added insulating properties, and when the creature jumped out of a tree with a predator almost on him, that fuzz may have enabled it to glide and hit the ground an inch farther from the tree than without the fuzz, or an inch higher up in the next tree it landed one..............advantages than could very well have been the difference between life and death, and offspring or no.

No they don't. All they have to do is something 0.00001% better than their competition, to live and have babies, or more babies.

such as the ability to repel water by

I'll tell you what's illogical.........people who will believe anything some guy with a vested interest in the corporation he works for tells him, with absolutely ZERO proof of anything. At least the government went after that company who was pedaking bogus weight reduction pills. When is the corporation you joined going to lay out their data for peer review like the scientists do. They spend half their life getting all the formal education that is available, then spend the other half expanding human knowledge to the best of their abilities. They do it in the open, with their theories that seem to expand what they and we see all about us in this universe. If the theory holds up, it can possibly be used for the benefit of humanity, to allow humans better control over nature, to find cures for diseases, improve the standard of living in countless ways, etc. If other smart people find flaws in the theory, it is modified, improved, or thrown out, to hopefully be replaced with a better theory.

If your life is better than living naked in a dirt floor twig hut, cleaning your butt with a pine cone, I posit that everything that has made it better came from those thinking questioning humans you have parasitically taken advantage of, and but for people like you, we would have had a cure for cancer 1000 years ago.

At least to me anyway. I've heard very

Creation Science is an oxymoron.

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Let me take a wild guess that you don't have a PhD in paleontology?

Wayne L spake thus:

You're laboring under a delusion. There's no "owner", no "moderator".* Nobody can kick anybody else out, or stop them from posting. This is Usenet, not a "board". What made you think any differently?

*There are moderated newsgroups, but this isn't one of them.

If you are kidding then put a smiley face on such disinformation. If you ar serious ... get real!

Or here, if Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and that insane fascist R. J. Rushdoonie and the rest of the "dominionist" or "Christian Reconstructionist" Christinane crowd. Ayatollahs one [way] and all.

Are you the troll or just posting like him?

It was a JOKE David :-)