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LNER Jubilee Coaches

Hello,

I'm looking for information on the coaches that were pulled by Silver Link / Silver King / Quick Silver / Silver Fox on the 1935 Silver Jubilee Service.

Information on these coaches is sparse (and I wasn't fooled by Hornby's LMS coaches painted silver)

If anyone can point me towards any resources - or a review of the amout of relevant material in the publications reffered to (later in this mail) , I would be greatly appreciative.

Thanks.

Craig.

Snipets of information already collected:

Reference to Isinglass Drawing No100

Peter Hall 19 May 1998 : Comments: Designed to operate as a high-spee 27th September 1935 and the regular service commenced on the Monday 30th September, operating Mondays to Fridays only until the outbreak of World War II. The service was not resumed after the war.

The original A4 locomotive No.2509 "Silver Link" operated the service alone for two weeks until other locomotives of the same class became available ex-works. The departure from Newcastle (Central) was at 10.0 am., with a stop at Darlington 10.40/10.42 a.m. with arrival at Kings Cross at 2.0 p.m. The return working departed Kings Cross at 5.30 p.m.stopped at Darlington

8.48i8.50 p.m.and arrived at Newcastle (Central) at 9.30 p.m. There was a supplementary fare of 5/- (25p) for 1st Class; and 3/- (15p) for 3rd Class.

Sets of Drawingsin either 4mm or 7mm scale (specify which) can be obtained from:

J.M.Edgson, 20 Gallants Farm Road, East Barnet, Herts., EN4 8ET

Price for the set of eight drawings is about £28.00 and £64.00 respectively incl. postage and packing (mail tube).

These drawings are highly recommended and contain a lot of detail and useful notes which is very carefully researched.

Useful photographic source for the A4 locomotives used with this set Nos.2509-2512 'Silver Link'; 'Silver Fox; etc., in their original condition is

R.S.Carpenter, 407 Highters Heath Lane, Hollywood, Birmingham. B14 4TR.

Other sources include L.Hanson, 20 Washington Road, Northampton,

Photomatic Ltd., Dellsome Lane, South Mymms, Herts.,

The Gresley Society, c'o G.W.Gosling, 8 Pevensey Grove, Flitwick, Beds., MK45 1SD

and possibly J.AG. Coltas, 69 Birch Street, Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancs., 0L7 OJD

Modelling notes for A4 locomotives A very useful set of these has been recently published in the LNER Study Group Journal No.2 (March 1998). Contact Kevin Tong, "Green Briars" 108 Birches Lane, South Wingfield Nr. Alfreton, Derbys., DE55 7LZfor copy.

The original coach set formationcomprised (from the engine) Brake 3rd 3rd [Twin] Open 3rd, Kitchen/Pantry, Open 1st [Restaurant Triplet]; Semi-Open 1st (1) (3) Compt.and 1st (4 compt)/Brake [Twin]

7 vehicles in all. The front twin vehicle was later modified to a triplet with an extra 3rd coach.

Recommended reading: 'The Coronation and Other Famous LNER Trains' - C.J. Allen pub. Ivor Nicholson & Watson, 2nd Edn. 1938

'LNER Carriages' - Michael Harris pub. Thomas & Lochar 1994

'Gresley Coaches' - Michael Harris pub. David & Charles 1973

Streamlined Steam, Britain's 1930's Luxury Expresses - A.J. Mullay Pub. David & Charles, 1994 ISBN 0 7153 0171 3

Either obtain through local library or specialist booksellers. Good second-hand specialists are H.G.E. Wilson, 14 Broomheath Road, Tarvin, Chester. CH3 8HB D.M. Newband, Drefor Cottage, Kerry, Nr. Newto

d 'limited' train from Newcastle (Central) to Kings Cross and return. There was an invitation 'press' run on Fridaywn, Powys., SY16 4PQ and C.Irwin, The Bookshop, Ravenstonedale, Kirkby Stephen, Cumbria.

HMRS PhotoCAT Extract for Silver Jubilee Items

[E00] LONDON & NORTH EASTERN [GENERAL VIEWS] [Passenger Trains] Item Description Dated Coll Cond Old Cat. # New Cat. # 4-6-2 LNER A4 2509 Silver Link Newcastle Central c1939 F3L ca1939 NWN Fair ACW020 HMRS Photo Catalogue No: ACW020 Silver Jubilee train leaving Newcastle Central. Most significant feature is a two arm lower quadrant lattice post bracket signal. Also shows station entrance in vicinity of platform 8. Silver Jubilee train behind A4 2510 Quicksilver R3L, pt lead coach ca1935 GYH Good H2234 ABJ030

[E00] LONDON & NORTH EASTERN [LOCOMOTIVES (STEAM VEHICLES)] [6 Coupled Tender Locomotives] Item Description Dated Coll Cond Old Cat. # New Cat. # 4-6-2 LNER A-4 2510 Quicksilver, bogie/2 drive whls and above LHS ca1935 GYH Good H2233 ABJ029

[E00] LONDON & NORTH EASTERN [PASSENGER COACHING STOCK] [Bogie Gangway Carriages] Item Description Dated Coll Cond Old Cat. # New Cat. # Silver Jubilee train, cars C (1583) & B, Side parts, leaving KX ca1935 GYH Good H2235 ABJ031

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Craig Douglas
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Coopercraft used to do kits, may be worth a contact.

near the bottom of the page.

Keith

Make friends in the hobby. Visit Garratt photos for the big steam lovers.

Reply to
Keith Norgrove

Mailcoach produce both the Silver Jubilee and LNER Coronation coach sets, including oberservation coach. These are in kit form.

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Brian Grey

Thank you guys for the responses so far..

I'm planning to buy the coopercraft set, but I was really looking for links to sites / photos or other detailed information.

Also has anybody seen sections in books relating to this train or set of coaches?

I'd be gratefull if anyone could indicate whether any passages in books contain any relevant material.

I've bought a couple of books and have ordered a few more and will report back here on them.

I appreciate anyone who can bring light to this topic.

I'll consider putting up a page if enough material is discovered.

Keith - The African Garrett photographs are excellent! (if only you'd been in London in 1935.........)

Many Thanks,

Craig

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Craig Douglas

Damn. I was just about to recommend this as a source, until I read further down your post!

David E. Belcher

Reply to
David E. Belcher

Thanks David!

Is there much information on the coaches or is is mainly the locomotives?

I've since had some books arrive and have found a reasonable section with 4 or 5 photos focussing on the train (rather than just the engine) in "A history of the LNER Volume 2: The Age of the Streamliners 1934-39 by Michael Bonavia ISBN 0 04 385094 4 Craig

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Craig Douglas

Hi guys,

Its off topic i know but I'm having a hell of a time trying to track these books down, can anyone recommend where these and others can be purchased online?

TIA, Ben.

Reply to
Ben Long

Plenty on both, with lots on the interiors and exteriors of the rolling stock for all three LNER streamlined services (and, indeed, the "East Anglian", which used ordinary teak-bodied stock with only the B17 being streamlined), as well as their post-war fate when the coaches ended up in the general pool of ECML express stock. There's even info on the schedules of the services and typical passenger loadings, and a section on loco performances for those occasions when the regular A4 failed (substitutes included V2s, ex-GN and ex-NBL Atlantics, and even the odd large tank loco!); one notable one is the

1min. early arrival of the "Silver Jubilee" into London with a supposedly "second string" A3 in charge! All in all, an excellent read, and written to appeal to all rail fans rather than being specifically aimed at LMS & LNER followers.

David E. Belcher

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David E. Belcher

A history of the LNER Volume 2: The Age of the Streamliners 1934-39 by Michael Bonavia ISBN 0 04 385094 4

Can be purchased through Amazon.co.uk, through either their Used books, zseller? ,Auction. Amazon Don't stock this book themselves, they merely broker you with a specialist bookshop (they're the money men for this).

Search google with the isbn numbers - remember to strip out the white spaces

Streamlined Steam, Britain's 1930's Luxury Expresses - A.J. Mullay Pub. David & Charles, 1994 ISBN 0 7153 0171 3

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Craig

locomotives?

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Craig Douglas

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