Made in China?

Oh no they don't, some are vegetarians.

Ken.

Forgive me, not so much winding up USAians, more a case of winding up Jerry :)

Ken.

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My apologies in return, you clearly were on topic after all. :-)

Unfortunately, I haven't met any.

DS

Two Scotsmen apply for the same job. One speaks Scots the other RP [English]. Which of the two is more likely to be offered the job?

(kim)

Come off it John. I'm sure you and your dear wife earn much more than that :o)

(kim)

The national minimum wage for employees over 18 is currently £4.85 whether trained or not.

(kim)

It is the duty of Britain and other allies to dissuade America from doing anything foolish but once they have embarked on a course of action it is our own interests to support them to the bitter end.

(kim)

I'm a soldier, you're a civilian. Few civilians appreciate just how dependent the UK is on US military aid for its defence after decades of spending cut backs by successive governments. Had Britain and the US not gone to war, UN sanctions would still be in place, Saddam would have exchanged oil for even more Russian and French weapons, his secret police would still be torturing thousands of members of ethnic minorities, majorities even and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children would be dying from starvation each year. It's the lesser of two evils.

(kim)

This thread is somewhat old and long, may I re-quote the remark that you made a few posts up this thread - you said;

My local supermarket is unable to recruit schoolleavers who can carry out the simplest of tasks.

You seem to be missing the point, how can someone who is (quite likely) fresh to the employment market have experience, the point about employment agencies and unskilled manual workers is neither here nor there, those people will have at least basic training for the position they are being hired for.

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I think we will have to agree to disagree on that, it's the duty of a nation to look after their OWN interests first and foremost, especially if it effects the safety of the nation or it's citizens.

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Personally I

That is the line we have been told to believe, yet this (and previous UK Governments) have failed to act in any country that doesn't have something that 'we' need, be that oil, food, or rock minerals - Zimbabwe is a prime example, considering the number of ex-pat UK passport holders, let alone Zimbabweans effected by the totalitarian leaders of that country...

Ah, I hadn't appreciated how well the British Army soldier is trained in killing with gun, knife, bare hand, and economic argument ;-)

That's a laudable sentiment. However, the war was not embarked upon with that aim. Had it been so, then I would possibly have deemed it moral. But the war was a private crusade by Bush et al for combination of oil revenues and whatever perverse thinking he had to "avenge" his father's failure to topple Saddam in the first Gulf war. And, to get public support, the governments lied (or at the very least, did some considerable stretching and selective quoting of the truth) about WMD. That's why I think it's an immoral war, because of its intent. There are some benefits, yes, but that doesn't make it moral.

R.

In message , kim writes

But the same thing has gone in Sudan for decades, with millions dead. And now in the Congo, again with millions dead. We stood by and did nothing in Bosnia (until the killing stopped), and we stood by and did nothing in Rwanda. All those four cases are far more deserving a cause for our military attention than Iraq. But why? Any coincidence that the aforementioned countries have little in the way of Oil reserves?

Yes you have. It's the females which penetrate to get blood in most of the species. The males just hang around and irritate you.

Ken.

Go broke.

"Greg Procter" wrote

Well I suppose that's a better option than going to war! There's also increasing tension between Japan and China at the moment over disputed territorial waters, so a Far Eastern conflict isn't total fantasy.

John.

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disputed

Isn't the territorial waters problem related to the Twain issue, the problem with Japan is due to China claiming that Japan has re written it's history - namely what Japanese kids will be told in history books about the conflict between Japan and China in WW2.

":::Jerry::::" wrote

Nope, Japan have just issued licenses to allow exploration for gas in disputed territorial waters.

John.