Calling all birthers

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

-- Constitution of the United States, Article II, section I, paragraph 5.

Hope This Helps! Rich

Reply to
Rich Grise
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Nope. No help at all.

The question is, where is the information that "Every one of them [President] has [published his birth certificate]. Along with their school records (all of which seem to be missing from the Obamassiah)"

'Want to show us some, or tell us where they were published?

Reply to
Ed Huntress

His parents were highly mobile, moving from country to country, around the time he was born.

Therefore it's a reasonable question and he should have given the long-form answer sooner.

Reply to
Tom Del Rosso

So you're saying that the short form, which is an official document in Hawaii and was certified by the appropriate officials there, is a fraud and that the officials are liars? It contains all of the relevant information.

And if that's the case, what makes you think that the long form is better?

Reply to
Ed Huntress

No, that doesn't help at all, because it doesn't say anything about birth certificates.

Reply to
Doug Miller

I'm saying more information is better, and most people probably have what I have, which includes all the long form info. So, to many people the short form doesn't look right. It doesn't to me, because it looks like a lot is missing. That's because of what I'm used to, not because it's a fraud. Nevertheless I didn't have serious doubt about the short one.

Reply to
Tom Del Rosso

Well, then, you have no reason for Obama to supply the long one. I have the short one. Most of the one's I've seen, except for those people who have a copy made the week they were born, are short ones. I have one from the week I was born, and it's a short form.

In any case, there was no reason for Obama to supply either one except to shut up the birthers, who aren't going to vote for him anyway, under any conditions. The Supreme Court hasn't even granted cert on the cases that were brought, because the certification by Hawaii is enough to satisfy any legal requirement.

Releasing it sounds like a bad precedent to me. But Trump was distracting attention, so I understand why he released it.

Reply to
Ed Huntress

I think "Natural born Citizen" pretty much covers that. Although, come to think of it, that could exclude anyone who was from their mother's womb untimely ripped, a la Caesarian section.

And why is Trump getting so much press anyway? He's nothing but a professional loudmouthed asshole anyway.

Thanks, Rich

Reply to
Rich Grise

Doug is completely right and you are completely wrong. The constitution does not require or mention birth certificates to be a president.

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Reply to
Ignoramus15341

Gunner Asch on Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:48:14 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Nope. But a manual machine may have variations on "miss strikes". One of the classics is when what is to be a capital letter is typed and the shift key is not held down properly. You wind up with the bottom of one case and the top of the other both striking the page. (This assumes a manual machine, not an electric one.)

Of course kids these days don't know from typewriters, having faked all their notes on computers. B-)

tschus pyotr

Reply to
pyotr filipivich

Gunner Asch on Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:37:43 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

And a lot of "natural born Citizens" had no birth certificates, as they were born at home. Some of them may even still be alive, for all I know. I wonder how many hippie kids had no birth certificate issued, as Mom & Dad were hippies and didn't want anything to do with "The Man"?

Reply to
pyotr filipivich

Gunner Asch on Sat, 30 Apr 2011 17:02:56 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

It is scary some times. I remember pulling out a printout from a program I had written, about nuclear weapon effects. The fact that it was about Nuclear Weapons _and_ printed on green bar, seemed to some of the folks in my dorm to mean it was some kind of "Official" document. I was kind of flabbergasted at their ... naivety.

pyotr

Reply to
pyotr filipivich

Mr. Obama's mother was a US citizen, therefore HE is a US citizen. If he had been born on Mars, he would still be a US citizen.

Period, end of controversy.

Reply to
Stuart Wheaton

Are we REALLY, REALLY, sure that he REALLY, REALLY, is Obama? Maybe he isn't.........

Cheers,

John D. Slocomb (jdslocombatgmail)

Reply to
J. D. Slocomb

Which doesn't say *anything* about needing to produce a birth certificate.

Apparently, that person was you, because I'm clearly better informed on the subject than you are. Now produce a cite for your claim that a candidate needs to produce his birth certificate, or STFU.

Reply to
Doug Miller

Show me where the Constitution says a candidate for President needs to produce his birth certificate. That's what you claimed, after all. Let's see the proof.

Reply to
Doug Miller

Yes, we know that. But *you* said that the *birth certificate* is a requirement -- and it's not.

I'm perfectly familiar with it. You appear to be completely ignorant of the entire document, though, since you seem to think that it somewhere requires that candidates produce a birth certificate to prove their citizenship.

News flash: it doesn't.

Can you possibly be that stupid? He was born in Hawaii. Hawaii is a U.S. state, and was at the time of his birth. That makes him a natural-born citizen.

I'm obviously more knowledgeable about the Constitution than you are. At least, *I* know that it doesn't contain any requirement for birth certificates.

LMAO! **YOU** need to go back and read it, *and* the Constitution, over and over and over, until you realize that there's no requirement for a birth certificate.

Ummm.... that would be you, Gummer. *You* claimed that producing a birth certificate is a requirement. But it's not. And when challenged to produce a cite for that [false] claim, you resort to insults and abuse.

Reply to
Doug Miller

No, it doesn't. My father doesn't have one, AFAIK, and neither do/did any of his brothers -- all born at home in rural Pennsylvania between 1913 and 1931. Neither did his father, born at home in rural Pennsylvania in 1890. Are/were they not natural born citizens?

Reply to
Doug Miller

What are you asking him to do, get originals?

The documents are not fraudulent. The fraud here is you.

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Reply to
Ignoramus15384

Well, a real birth certificate is pretty much good enough proof that he's a natural born citizen, no?

Thanks, Rich

Reply to
Rich Grise

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