Calling all birthers

I did the same check, although I didn't see the pdf download until after posting. It looks like it blurred only because the shadow in the original's curvature made the copy dark.

It sure took the CIA a long time to fake that thing, didn't it?

-- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman

Can we get forensic testing of the actual long form? A pdf isn't proof. Might as well get that out, it will be coming.

FWIW, Bill O'Reily investigated this and his team found notices in the newspaper of the birth so I'm not inclined to be a birther though has been fun watching this. I'm not suprized the President released this, there are states that have made disclosure a requirement to get on the ballot.

I did do a bit of research, I was going to ask where his foot print was but that isn't what is done. Too bad, it could have eliminated a lot of identity fraud over the years.

I *wish* we would quit wasting time on Trump, he is as republican as Mayor for life Bloomberg. I was really hoping Halley would run but he decided he would rather have a life.

Wes

Yeah, but if they had political sense they would have known it was not the best or quickest way.

For some very small value of "quick and easy." What it really did was expose many right wingers for the petty liars and cheaters that they are, and their followers for the blind sheep that they are.

If you've got a real issue, get yourself a candidate and fight it out at the polls.

"Man black, House White" - Yoda

Once again, you moron. The green part isn't the part that is copied, it is the paper it is copied onto. It is green safety copier paper.

Paul K. Dickman

If they had a notion that it is better to be honest, rather than to engage in "quick and dirty ways", then they would not make the remaining 10% of Republicans look bad.

Name one.

It was a translation mistake.

My point exactly.

Why? If someone doesn't believe the Hawaii officials on this, Wes (the head of that department, who said she saw it twice, is a Republican), then they'll never believe anything. They'll just keep finding more reasons to believe it's a fraud.

Nothing is "proof," except belief in the integrity of the states' record-keeping system. The birthers are a little nuts. To continue with this now, they'll have to appear even more nuts. I suspect they'll quiet down soon, and if they don't, they'll play right into the Democrats' hands in the next election. Centrists don't want to be associated with nuts, and it's the center that will determine the next election, as it usually does.

I don't think any state has passed this yet. Jan Brewer vetoed it in Arizona, and the other states are beginning to realize they will run into a Constitutional problem if they refuse to accept *other* states' certification. See Article IV, Section 1. And Congress can dictate the procedures they have to use, under the same Section.

The question is whether each states' authority to run its own elections extends to how they will treat candidates from other states. I don't think the S.C. has ruled on this specific point, although I haven't done a thorough search.

No, those are "souvenir" certificates. They aren't certified and, in NJ, you can't even use one to get a driver's license.

Maybe the Republicans can get Bob Dole to run again. I haven't seen him in Viagra commercials for years, so maybe he's not too busy.

This is b.s., as I documented in another post.

a well seasoned politician then.

John

Beyond politician. He'd sell you the Brooklyn Bridge while trying to steal your wife.

My neighbor says she saw the interview on TV of his grandmother saying that she saw him when he was born. She saw it only once, saying that it was quickly sequestered.

-- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman

The mistake was in translating what she said as "she was present at birth".

I am saying that the Republican party has lost all credibility in my eyes.

They would need to work pretty hard to earn it back.

Oh, I forgot. He comes from Daileyville. He doesn't need the NSA.

That and all his other papers (and Michelle's) from college, etc. Michelle's thesis was titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community." They're both black-obsessed, and I think probably quite racist. How non-PC of them!

Ever listen to what he says? There's quite a lot of it, and he goes on for hours, but in the end analysis, nothing was said. It's entirely rhetoric and fluff. I'm amazed that Ig is still (or ever was) a Believer.

Why in the hell is anyone getting high on Trump as a nominee, anyway?

-- Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman