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Apr 21, 2004
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I think you're right now that I read that. That makes sense. Those facing death (or life) get a real up-close spiritual reality check.
Kevin
"4" Kevin Nolan Countdown Hobbies;
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"3" NAR 16148 7 P.T. Barnum Square, Bethel, CT 06801-1838 "2" TRA 0943 Orders: 800-810-0281; Info: 203-790-9010 (voice/fax) "1" NARCONN/CTRA snipped-for-privacy@cs.com "0" NRHSA "Put Fun & Excitement in Your Life"
Hey, do they give you new Nikes and a purple shroud when you sign up? Be careful if they offer Kool-aid!
(I always wondered what had become of the "Moonies"!)
If you're a "borderline agnostic", where do you get your values? Do you make them up as you go along? Without God deciding what is right and wrong, anything goes! There are no absolutes if God is out of the picture.
Kevin
"4" Kevin Nolan Countdown Hobbies;
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"3" NAR 16148 7 P.T. Barnum Square, Bethel, CT 06801-1838 "2" TRA 0943 Orders: 800-810-0281; Info: 203-790-9010 (voice/fax) "1" NARCONN/CTRA snipped-for-privacy@cs.com "0" NRHSA "Put Fun & Excitement in Your Life"
Kevin , i always respected you when i walked in your store and put down the cash, cash i say because I didn't buy engines until i earned the money to pay for them, you probably don't even recognize my name since I didn't pay with credit, after reading this i have lost my respect for you and will take my business elsewhere, customer lost, good day, stan
HUH?
You take possession of a product from a merchant.
You sign for it.
The bank pays the merchant.
You owe the bank what it paid the merchant.
If you never borrow the money it is never created.
Where in the above example is the Bank unethically keeping and using your money?
Your paragraph does not make sense.
Call it what you like. I think he has a much better grip on right & wrong than you do. You are in no position to be preaching about God, Jesus or anything else.
Sound like one of those cults where if you are not a member, you won't get to leave when the grand spaceship arrives!
Morality - right and wrong - is a function of society. "values" are leaned from others, and in many cases your parents play a big part.
Seems one of the "values" you never pick up on concerns "conceit".
And don't give me the line about how "god" knows your right!
1) His attitude IS consistent with a deal we had a long time ago. Customers must have not detected it because he insists on being paid before shipping. I do not. 2) I will advise Kevin with specifics because that is the very kind of guy I am:
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3) Feel free to grow an ethical bone in your body and simply pay me for the full wholesale cost of each and every USR kit you ever received without exception.
Just Jerry
I have.
With YOU!
A few hundred.
It has already arrived sir.
We live in a police state where the state has rights far superior to citizens despite some old, tired rag hidden away in Washington and Philadelphia in plain view to taunt its "beneficiaries".
I say that is NOT a feature because the rocketry relationship is so remote it is offensive and off-topic and it cannot be declared off-toopic simply because of that trivial MODICUM.
Since they can monitize approximately seven (yes 7) times as much money as is deposited, does that mean that under the terms of your scheme, they should also be FORCED to issue you credit of $7000 for every $1000 you deposit?
If so, check this out and it does work mechanically for UNSECURED loans:
1) You deposit $5000 into your bank. 2) Your CORPORATION receives an unsecured loan for $35,000 3) The bank is fully extended.4) You pull a Gary and withdraw $35,000 from your CORPORATION and deposit it into your bank.
5) Your CORPORATION receives an unsecured loan for $245,000 6) The bank is fully extended.7) You pull a Gary and withdraw $245,000 from your CORPORATION and deposit it into your bank.
8) Your CORPORATION receives an unsecured loan for $1,715,000 9) The bank is fully extended.10) You pull a Gary and withdraw $1,715,000 from your CORPORATION and deposit it into your bank.
11) Your CORPORATION receives an unsecured loan for $12,005,000 12) The bank is fully extended.Unwind. Corporation files BK and stiffs the bank for $14,000,000 You withdraw your money the same day $2,000,000
Bank becomes in solvent and dissolves and remaining depositors above $100,000 are stiffed.
There. Build a MLM around that.
Be sure to find a jurisdiction to live in that has no extradidtion treaties with the USA. I suggest Cuba.
Test: How much did you start with and how much do you have now?
Jerry
Gee I wonder why there are banking laws and underwriting rules?
Assuming you even can!
Apparantly in this example that is a GOOD thing!
Like Tripoli?
I made it a rocket thread!!!
Actually, no it isn't. If it was, then there would never be *any* contracts, because you can always posit a "what if" situation that wasn't spelled out in the terms, no matter how specific the terms are.
Here's a pretty good web site I just found (top response when I googled for "definition of contract":
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It goes into a lot more of the legal "nitty gritty" details, but it boils down to this:
If the two parties have a "meeting of the minds" as to what is being offered by one in exchange for something from the other, and take some step towards effecting that exchange (such as the merchant giving you a VCR in exchange for your promise to pay as evidenced by your giving him your credit card details and leaving with the VCR), you have a binding contract.
Note: no words need be spoken or written for you to have a contract, if meanings can be reasonably inferred by a reasonable person reviewing your actions. If you walk into Circuit City, pick up a VCR box and carry it to the checkstand, hand the guy behind the checkstand your credit card, and walk out with the VCR, without having touched a pen or having said a word (either of you!), you have a valid contract to buy that VCR from Circuit City. You also have a forgotten credit card, but that's another issue....
- Rick "Future Law Student" Dickinson
Kevin, since I owe you about $500, I'm sure you'll be happy to know that I have just decided that that debt is invalid. See, by giving me $500 worth of goods in return for my promise to pay you, you've "created" money out of nothing.
Therefore, I have reached the following conclusions:
- You're a crook.
- I'm a victim.
- Thus, I have decided that you're not entitled to that 0.
I'm sure you'll understand. It is, after all, the same logic you're using.
I believe we went off the gold standard in 1936.
The logic is consistent.
He already used it on me!
The very existance of money is because it was made from nothing.
since it does not grow on tress, nor can be dug up from the ground, it has to be created out of thin air.
the economic structure has gotten to rules of how it gets created.
before that kings created it, backed by jewels and tresures ussually stolen from another country.
But I digress, money is always made up out of thin air.
instead of paper printing, now it simply computer numbers, but it's the same.
but, just cause jesus tossed the money changers out of his fathers house, does not allow us to stiff banks at will.
the best reseaon is the money changers are not stiffed by it, they pass the stiffing on to the poor widows that are their sharholders.
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