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Actually, due to energy costs, the ice probably cost MORE than the drink itself. I too am POed when I end up with an empty cup thats full of undrinkable ice. But as Jerry said, many places now offer free refils on soft drinks, again, because the cie and the cup cost them more than the drink. Especially if it's a glass container and the energy of running the dishwasher is added to the picture.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Jerry, you're old enough to have experienced the time when that was not the case (free refills), and ice WAS used as filler. Now people are so used to it, they think they need it, even though as Karl points out, the drinks are already cold. Besides, the ice just ends up diluting the drink, especially at the end.

As to not drinking from the tap in europe, that's another cultural learning. Restaurants do serve tap water if you ask and as long as you're in a decent area, you're just fine.

Chuck, bring your Video of NyPowerX with you as well to get some good drinkin' footage. I still remember, Cast those daemons from this rocket, "laying on of hands" on the hyper-tech rockets that just seems so funny after a few cold ones.

Art

the launch range is an airport ! so the best one is the HAG at Geneseo!

Now I know I'm being silly, but I saw light aircraft flying their this year as well as the war birds during NyPower X. I just could not resist.

But Bob! The "cost" is not an issue as compared to the PRICE they charge from $1.69 to $2.50 to as high as $3.50.

Jerry

The reason that happened was two fold:

1. Ice was a fad. It was "new" that you could GET ice in your drink, so you asked for it so often it became the default condition. Now it is societally engrained forever. And good.
2. Coca-Cola was a branded beverage and was thus premium price and you were required to install EQUIPMENT in order to dispense it (ice chest, vending machine, fountain head, shelf display). This required commitment, and the ice too, so you have a real operation going now.

I am in favor of "lite ice". Neandratals need heavy ice to survive mentally on some extreme :)

Jerry

Bob I just returned from London. I had many a "very slightly chilled" draft beer, ale, lauger and "bitter". They were really good draft beers.

Traveling in the tubes was a blast as well, they call it the underground.

Heck to cross a city street in the business district you walked or biked underground the intersection. Those bikes will run you down, the symbol for a walking Lane looks like a chalk mark around a body.

Art

Very few beers qualify as lousy to me. Especially if they are cold and free ;-)

(oh, and you can keep piss warm beer...blech blech blech)

That's because they drive on the wrong side of the street.

Phil Stien

Phil Stein

While you're at it, potassium is just "K", "N" is nitrogen, "O" is oxygen and "B" is boron, so KNOB would be potassium boron nitric oxide or potassium boronitric oxide (if it existed,that is).

Mark Simpson NAR 71503 Level II God Bless our peacekeepers

Sounds good in theory. Here's another one. Most Europeans, who need AC, are too cheap to air condition their houses, businesses and restaurants. ;-) I was in Germany during a week long 95F+ heatwave. The only relief I got was cruising in my buddy's Beamer with the AC blasting. Oh, and the death toll from France's heatwave was 15,000 frogs, not 3,000.

Mark Simpson NAR 71503 Level II God Bless our peacekeepers

Bit, Not to be argumentative, but how does a foreigner know which areas have tap water is safe to drink without being a traveling microbiologist or geographer? I spent several weeks on bottled water in Germany, France and Belgium and only drank tap water in Sweden. Why? because nobody told me that any of the water was drinkable.

Mark Simpson NAR 71503 Level II God Bless our peacekeepers

Are you speaking of the big kaboom? The daemons won! ;-)

All the Coke and beer is :)

I hear French people are expendable. Is that still true?

Jerry

Its certainly true that a foreigner might not know, but my comments were in the context of refuting someone else's claim that tap water in Europe is unsafe and that is why they don't generally put ice in drinks.

Certainly the locals (should) know whether their water is safe and therefore whether they could use ice. The reality is that Europeans have been aculturated (is that a word?) to less than optimally cold beverages, so they just don't want ice. After 13 years in the States my wife still doesn't want ice in drinks, even if they aren't cold to begin with - worse yet, she's trained our kids the same way!

I suspect that the water supply in pre-modern times was highly suspect, especially during WWI and WWII. This would explain the bias against tap-water, even if it is fine now.

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I'm guessing that's due to the astronomically higher energy prices over there. Which in turn are probably caused by socialist/treehugger regs and policies.

They drink on the wrong side too. ; )

Randy

You can't that's why the king had a food taster. You have to get someone else to try it first and if they do ok, the you can drink.

Randy