[Trolls} Received the holy grail and are silent

Instead it promotes it WITHOUT comment about deficiencies.

It is a MONOLOGUE.

Yes it does.

Therefore (and I say this cautiously), you are a LIAR.

It endorses HPR magazine.

It seeks subscriptions for it.

HPR in this context is HPR Magazine (not the sport as a general rule) ""owned"" and edited by Bruce Kelly (still) despite the --known-- and repetitious failures.

Huh?

Let's be clear. In hear that. I do. I challenge the truth of that. I challenge not living up to disclosure of ANY (note ANY) delay DATA.

Seriously.

If it was collected, and we both know it mostly was not, it would be TRIVIAL to publish it on a WEBSITE.

Seriously.

I cofounded TRA. All I ask is it actually TRY to live up to the promises it unilaterally makes. It might NEVER succeed 100%.

But to NEVER "TRY" is unacceptable. INHO #012.

Jerry

TRA #012

"Contacting" them is futile.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine
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You know Jerry, you could have just gone about your own business, quietly making illegal motors and selling them under the table to your local buds, and no one would care. But no, that's not good enough for you, you'd rather spend 15+ years lying about how legal you are, and how TRA/NAR/everyone-else-in-the-world is evil just 'cause they won't be co-conspirators to your schemes, and telling everyone to "live the lifestyle" while hiding the fact you got a felony conviction for "living the lifestyle". You're walking around carrying a huge "KICK ME" sign of your own making, and then complaining when someone kicks you.

Reply to
raydunakin

I've done so several times, without response. Including within the past few days.

At t he same time I contacted NAR S&T about the data that is missing from their site, and already got a commitment to fill in whatever is still missing ASAP.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Reply to
Bob Kaplow

Key word.

Commitment.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Kevin T. wrote: > > TRA web site does not discuss HPR

Jerry replied:

Make up your mind, Jerry.

Big deal, no one cares what you "challenge". Oh, and there's nothing to "live up to". There is no requirement to post the test data, only the test results.

An early member, certainly, but "cofounder"? TRA was founded by people in Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, especially Francis Graham, Tom Blazanin and Mark Weber.

It grew out of the Tripoli Rocket Club, was briefly called the Tripoli Rocketry Society, and then became the Tripoli Rocketry Association in April 1985. The first Interim BOD consisted of J.P. O'Connor, Mark Weber, Tom Blazanin, and Francis Graham.

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Reply to
raydunakin

Bob, have you also contacted CAR? I seem to recall someone saying that CAR too does not post delay test data.

Reply to
raydunakin

Have you asked S&T if they can provide you with the delay data from TMT? TMT tells me that they supply it to them when they test motors that might be usable in competition. I guess that would be G and below.

Reply to
Phil Stein

Maybe they will tell him to get bent as well.

Reply to
Tweak

I've asked, but haven't got a response to that question yet.

Besides, G and below might cover a handful of the hundred(s of) motors that are TMT certified. They need to publish the data for ALL motors with delays, not just the few that are G or less.

Reply to
Bob Kaplow

I doubt it. They don't kick out CAR members for posting to RMR like TRA does. In fact I was one of the first non-Canadian CAR members back in the early 80s.

Reply to
Bob Kaplow

I haven't seen anyone get kicked out for posting to rmr and if Iz wasn't kicked out, no one is going to be. Now you and Jerry need to set the Way Back Machine to 2005 and jump in.

If you're nice and you ask, maybe TRA would let you back in.

Reply to
Phil Stein

I'm not confusing you wanting them to publish the data with them needing to. 8-)

For the people that don't see why it's so hard, look at what's there. Then consider how much work it is to complie the data and post it on the web site. Then consider that it is done by a part time volunteer with a full time job, a family and his own rockets to build and fly. Then tell me that you don't see why it's so hard. NFTA and I are fine with the Pass/Fail system.

Reply to
Phil Stein

Then we can kick him out again.

Reply to
Tweak

Like I said, if Iz didn't get the boot, no one iz. Of course Jerry could prove me wrong if he gets back in. Would you believe no one except Jerry and Bob?

Reply to
Phil Stein

Tried it.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Want help?

I volunteer.

Seriously.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

Ask Blazanin yourself.

Reply to
Jerry Irvine

The way I heard it, you didn't dance very well and continued to "take liberties with the truth".. (:-)

Reply to
W. E. Fred Wallace

True but they say that the humor aspect was a once in a lifetime performance.

Reply to
Phil Stein

Like TRA *DID*. We're talking past-tense, Bob. No, I'm not defending it, I'm just pointing out that your use of the present tense is inaccurate.

-Kevin

Reply to
Kevin Trojanowski

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