Flip Kwikset left-hand lock knob to right-hand keyhole reversal

CY: Cause people like you don't hire people like me to come out and do the work that I studied and trained to do.

CY: You can apprentice like anyone else. Learning is good. But expecting it for free is different.

CY: They are my competition.

CY: What's wrong with asking (for free) for the wisdom I worked to learn?

as little as

Home Depot and

CY: Yep. Compared to getting good service by hiring a pro.

other than

CY: Hint: Open yellow pages. Look under L section. Look for heading "Locksmith".

A door lock seems like a common enough

that you

impression that I

deadbolt was a

CY: Well, your ignorance is showing again. I'm not going to tell you why.

the "Titans"

the Kwikset

my five inch

CY: Actually, my suggestion is to call a locksmith. You're being a cheepskate, still. Which doesn't surprise me, cause leopards seldom change t heir spots.

my security

CY: If you want security, call a locksmith.

deadbolts

CY: Your local locksmith can answer qeustions.

I personally don't see what you're getting all worked up about ? this is "alt.locksmithing" the guy wasn't asking defeating instructions. also home depot is not any locksmiths competition.

the above is all I meant to include in my response. just hit that send button before I trimmed it..

g'day

it took me like an hour to read all these!.

The lock will work upside down, but is designed to work so that the teeth on the key are up when inserted into the lock. The kwikset cylinder is constructed with plastic parts so it cannot be beaten on too aggressively. You can pop it out with a screwdriver and brute force, but you stand a good chance of damaging the assembly.

Initially, once you determined that the handing of the lock(s) was incorrect, you could have returned to the store and if the guys in the store didn't have the ability to switch them over with the simple tool that is used for this task, then swap them out for Schlage which are easy to reverse with a pointed tool (ice pick or equivalent). When you are buying the Schlages, ask then to reverse the hand for you in the store first, or show you how, or leave the knobs off the locks until you've mounted them on the door, then pop the exterior knobs on with the cylinders correctly oriented. Or If you went to a locksmith in the first place, you would have been directed to the right lock for the project, and they could have rekeyed the new lock to match the existing locks in your home, and made you a few spare keys. Locksmiths will alsrekey and adjust locks brought in to them, even if you bought the locks elswhere. Call first so you know they will do it, and they will be in the shop when you arrive.

If these were new installs, or you encountered other problems, such as the existing holes in the door were too small to accept the new hardware, then having a locksmith do it would have ensured a clean and proper installation. Having a little experience, mechanical aptitude and a few special tools makes all the difference in the world. A major portion of most locksmiths' key cutting, is for folks who tried to get keys duplicated in a hardware store or home center; and the keys they were provided don't work.

As pointed out elsewhere, the home centers usually carry the lowest tier of product, so even if the lock is a 'brand' name, you are not really getting the quality that you are expecting because the lock company built their reputation on quality which is not present in low-end residential products.

But it's like that in every market; manufacturers exploiting a brand name built up over decades. and slipping in off-shore junk on you. But on the other hand, the home centers are responding to what their clients are demanding, and what has become the new way of thinking; buy cheap and throw it away when it breaks. With locks, and other critical items however, if it breaks, it may result in a burglary or personal injury.

That's where a locksmith is also valuable, he won't sell you something if he doesn't believe in it, because he knows the products, takes pride in his profession, and is a businessman and knows you'll call him up and he'll have to go back and make good on the job (referred to as a call-back)

H> >I personally don't see what you're getting all worked up

REALLY? never seen ANY plastic in ANY KW cylinders.. now, some of the thumb latches are heavy in the plastic mechanism.. Weiser or Weslock has the plastic bible, forget which, but the plug is even then, metal

--Shiva--

^Weiser

The other thing the guy got wrong. Schlages don't need to be reversed with a retainer. They go in either way, no problem.

I've been wanting to know how to print the cent sign for some time. Thanks VERY much for the info!! I can do it now and it even works with Word Perfect! ¢

And I didn't know how to input ascii characters before, either.

Ralph

ALT+Number Combinations

Best viewed with window maximized!!

The Character Map characters are made by depressing either ALT key, then typing the following numbers - using the numeric keypad on the right side of keyboard. For example: ALT + 0200 = È The letter appears after the Alt key is released.

Both three and four digit systems exist and are shown in the three charts below. More on the four digit combinations can be found in Start/Program/Accessories/Character Map. Help is available in Start/Find - then type character map. Windows 95 seems to accept either the three or four digit system.

For Web Page Special Characters click here. Translated into Swedish by Henrik Karlzén.

Four digits

¤ Alt+0164 ? Alt+0134 × Alt+0215 ÷ Alt+0247 ¶ Alt+0182 ? Alt+0135 ± Alt+0177

- Alt+0151

- Alt+0150 § Alt+0167 ^ Alt+0136 ~ Alt+0152 « Alt+0171 » Alt+0187 ¦ Alt+0166 ? Alt+0137 © Alt+0169 ® Alt+0174 T Alt+0153

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á Alt+0225 à Alt+0224 â Alt+0226 ä Alt+0228 å Alt+0229 Á Alt+0193 Ã Alt+0195 Ä Alt+0196 Å Alt+0197 À Alt+0192 Â Alt+0194 æ Alt+0230 Æ Alt+0198 ç Alt+0231 Ç Alt+0199 ê Alt+0234 é Alt+0233 ë Alt+0235 è Alt+0232 Ê Alt+0202 Ë Alt+0203 É Alt+0201 È Alt+0200 ï Alt+0239 í Alt+0237 î Alt+0238 ì Alt+0236 Í Alt+0205 Ì Alt+0204 Î Alt+0206 Ï Alt+0207 ñ Alt+0241 Ñ Alt+0209 o Alt+0156 O Alt+0140 ô Alt+0244 ö Alt+0246 ò Alt+0242 õ Alt+0245 ó Alt+0243 ø Alt+0248 Ó Alt+0211 Ô Alt+0212 Õ Alt+0213 Ø Alt+0216 Ö Alt+0214 Ò Alt+0210 s Alt+0154 S Alt+0138 ú Alt+0250 ü Alt+0252 û Alt+0251 ù Alt+0249 Ù Alt+0217 Ú Alt+0218 Ü Alt+0220 Û Alt+0219 ÿ Alt+0255 Y Alt+0159 ý Alt+0253 Ý Alt+0221

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ª Alt+0170 Þ Alt+0222 þ Alt+0254 f Alt+0131 ß Alt+0223 µ Alt+0181 Ð Alt+0208 º Alt+0186 . Alt+0149 (large bullet) " Alt+0132 . Alt+0133 ¬ Alt+0172 ¿ Alt+0191 ¡ Alt+0161 ¥ Alt+0165 £ Alt+0163 ¢ Alt+0162 ¹ Alt+0185 ² Alt+0178 ³ Alt+0179 ½ Alt+0189 ¼ Alt+0188 ¾ Alt+0190

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Three Digits

128 Ç 129 ü 130 é 131 â 132 ä 133 à 134 å 135 ç 136 ê 137 ë 138 è 139 ï 140 î 141 ì 142 Ä 143 Å 144 É 145 æ 146 Æ 147 ô 148 ö 149 ò 150 û

155 ¢

(Greek letters and math symbols are between 224 and 247)

151 ù 152 ÿ 153 Ö 154 Ü 160 á 161 í 162 ó 163 ú 164 ñ 165 Ñ 167 º 168 ¿ 248 ° 250 · (small bullet)

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Comparison

FRENCH

133 à (0224) 131 â (0226) 135 ç (0231) 130 é (0233) 138 è (0232) 136 ê (0234) 137 ë (0235) 140 î (0238) 139 ï (0239) oe ligature (0156) 147 ô (0244) 151 ù (0249) 150 û (0251)

183 À (0192)

182 Â (0194) 128 Ç (0199) 212 È (0200) 144 É (0201) 210 Ê (0202) 211 Ë (0203) 215 Î (0206) 216 Ï (0207) OE ligature (0140) 226 Ô (0212) 235 Ù (0217) 234 Û (0219) 174 « (0171) 175 » (0187) SPANISH

160 á (0224)

130 é (0233) 161 í (0237) 164 ñ (0241) 162 ó (0243) 163 ú (0250) 129 ü (0252) Á (0193) 144 É (0201) Í (0205) 165 Ñ (0209) Ó (0211) Ú (0218) 154 Ü (0220) 168 ¿ (0191) 173 ¡ (0161)

ITALIAN

133 à (0224) 138 è (0232) 141 ì (0236) 149 ò (0242) 151 ù (0249) À (0192) È (0200) Ì (0204) Ò (0210) Ù (0217)

PORTUGUESE

ã (0227) Ã (0195) 135 ç (0231) 128 Ç (0199) 149 ò (0242) Ò (0210) 162 ó (0243) Ó (0211) õ (0245) Õ (0213)

GERMAN/SCANDINAVIAN

132 ä (0228) 134 å (0229) 145 æ (0230) ð (0240) 137 ë (0235) 148 ö (0246) 155 ø (0248) 225 ß (0223) þ (0254) 129 ü (0252) 152 ÿ (0255)

142 Ä (0196)

143 Å (0197) 146 Æ (0198) Ð (0208) Ë (0203) 153 Ö (0214) 157 Ø (0216) Þ (0222) 154 Ü (0220)

by Irene Starr UMass FLRC

4/1999, 12/2000

my2¢ (my 2 ALT+0162 or ALT+155)

Newflash: That's what Usenet is for. If you don't like it don't answer the question. Don't be surprised when nobody answers yours either though.

Be realistic why would anybody pay a service call just to have a $12.99 lock cylinder reveresed????? My trip charge would be just under 5X what they paid for the lock. Let the store they came from do it. They sold the lock, let them provide some customer service.

?????? That was what you already said in the very first reply to this monster thread:

" Just call a locksmith and be done with it.".

Sears doesn't compete with HD in many if not most areas. Many Sears/Craftsman brand power tools are also total Chinese made crap. As far as customer service Lowes is about the same. No better no worse except that they don't have self checkout so you will wait longer to get out the door.

Do you paint your own house? Clean your own house? Fix your own car? Wash your own car? Do any of your own home reapirs? Mow your lawn? Unstop your own tiolet or sinks? If the answer to any of the above is yes then you are no different than the person you're whining at. There are people that do all those things for profit. You are taking money out of their pocket, you cheap greedy SOB.

funny thing I got a Lowes half mile away, and they will repin to match the customers key FREE.. othewise its $5 per cylinder when you bring them in.. and as far as self chcekout, this one DOES.. just like the Walmarts now

--Shiva--

No it isn't.

On some machines it is: alt + 0162 (have to use the num pad). Some will accept either 155 or 0162, some just one or the other.

Yeah I have, and they are still better than kwikset.

Must be a regional thing then because I have never been in a Lowes with self checkout. HD is usually one step ahead of Lowes. They were with the self checkout and with tool rental too. Customer service though is about the same at either. It's luck of the draw. You get somebody who knows what they are doing or you don't.

AAAAmen on that.. got an old codger here in the electrical, knows his stuff.. the kids have NO clues

never mind the kid trying to repin a Schlage deadbolt-that was plum funny to watch.

--Shiva--

I do some of those things. What's my money doing in their pockets in the first place?