ATFE Anti-rocketry Video

ROTFL!

Seriously, I remember a guy at Danville that went to fly a rocket on a K1100 and didn't know he needed a casing. He just epoxied all the reload slugs into his MMT. The result was as expected...

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Not sure what to cite. Federal land (military bases, etc) are legally NOT part of the state that surrounds them.

The only direct experience I have is the 1980 SMWC held at the lakehurst naval base. At the time NJ had rocket regs worse than the PRK. But since we weren't "in" NJ, we didn't ahve to comply.

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So they don't test, they just list, for a fee. Boy, that sure offers PRK residents an extra layer of protection. What else is subject to this extortion? Fireworks? Safety flares? Cigars and cigaretes? Wood? Petroleum products? paper?

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

With overnight delivery requirements and the threats attached to that letter I'd agree. Can you imagine any one stupid enough to send a letter to someone and order something with out first inquiring as to the price.

other than our government... Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

perhaps. it doesn't matter now, but I wanted to know the status of an "explosives" transaction that took place on federal land, and not in or across state lines. Might have been another exemption to needing an LEUP...

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maybe someone stupid enough to launch one from within a van full of reloads is stupid enough to not assemble the motor correctly...

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Bob Kaplow wrote: [re: model rocket engines as california "registered pyrotechnics"]

They basically want some assurance that the product in question is actually a "model rocket engine" - historically, this has been provided in forms which ranged from evidence of "listing as certified" by sport rocketry associations to actual demonstration firings witnessed by a CSFM representative.

Yep. Have to determine whether they're "Dangerous Fireworks" or "Safe and Sane Fireworks". (No sparklers or firecrackers allowed in the latter category - just little fizzy things like "ground bloom flowers" and "fountains".) Can't fire off Dangerous Fireworks unless you're the right kind of Pyrotechnics Operator Licensee.

Most likely... have to be sure they're _really_ Safety Flares (and not Dangerous Fireworks _disguised_ as safety flares or something) - everything must be properly Registered and Classified.

Don't think the State Fire Marshal regulates those directly, but the health department now has "smoke free building" regulations so you have to go outside to smoke 'em.

-dave w

I saw a guy try to fly a Pro38 reload sans casing.

Well, that's a _little_ more understandable - a Pro38 reload assembly might almost look like it was a complete motor to an uninitiated observer...

-dave w

Bingo! Give the man a prize...

Since the explosives laws specifically say inerstate then "on federal land" is not interstate. Also the new law says "in-state", and since federal land is not "in-state" it also probably does not apply.

Jerry

Yes.

I have video of one which will appear in the next DVD.......can't blame him though as he was loading Hyper Teks all day, and the HT grain looks so much like the Pro38 casing he never even gave it a thought, until it sat there like a birthday candle after spittin the payload sections 10 feet in the air.........He was laughing, nothing else he could do, but he will remain nameless. :-D

Hence the order for 40 single use motors.........

Probably couldn't get SU J350's because TRA has decertified all the SU specialists.

Jerry

Yes jerry, This thread along with all others, is all about you.

kaplow snipped-for-privacy@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@eisner.encompasserve.org:

#1,how did he get a K motor without having the knowledge that a casing was necessary? How could he have gotten any certification without knowing that?

#2;how did the rocket pass tech inspection?

David Weinshenker wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net:

I thought that those level motors were to be only purchased by people with CERTIFICATION,thus NOT being an "uninititated observer".

You and Triano and Dunakin and others remind me that I spend between 50 and 75% of my time refuting or disproving FUD, lies, frauds, and liblels on rmr. If I were not here so often it would all go unchallenged as it used to and I would be vilified yet again like I used to be before.

Now at least SOME people have seen though the heavy, dense, fog of FUD that is constantly rolling over rmr and TRA like a skunk-cloud. Independent investigations find what I say is FACT. Independent investigations find the vast majority of the FUDmasters words are PURE SPECULATION or out right lies. The very little that is true, I outright ADMIT TO. And have CORRECTED.

So as we see the usual trail of on vacation trolls and psychopaths roll through rmr on their annual pilgrimage to FUD Jerry Irvine in particular. Remember this. They will not be there to support or defend their positions. They will not be there being the oft SOLE real answer to technical questions raised on rmr. They are hate mongers doing as hate mongers do. Cause trouble and LEAVE.

Jerry

"Yes, and I want to personally thank you for your tech contributions in those forums. Good stuff."

- Mike Fisher

"In all truthfulness I would rather read the worst of Jerry's diatribes than the obsequious sycophantic apologies of Mr. Dunakin"

- Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed