Loki Research motors at LDRS

That is your attitude and that of your paramours toward me.

Not at all. I just want you to knock off the "TRA is evil, I have all the answers" BS.

Jeff,

I was very impressed with your hardware and motors. The star grain L was fantastic to watch. The ARTS flight controllers are also way cool. I will be helping Scott Miller build your flight database at the JMRC Launch in 2 weeks ;-)...

Great to see you guys there...can't wait for the certifications....And to anybody else reading this....These guy's products really ROCK!

Mark Palmer TRA 08542...L3

I do not have your "all or nothing" attitude. Stop characterizing me that way.

Liar.

Perhaps they remember the last time a vendor sold motors before they were certified. The LDRS in Colordao I think it was. The motors were never certified and the vendor is long gone.

Jeff Taylor wrote: > David Schultz wrote: >

I read that as 6 grains to one customer, who flew it as a factory demo under company supervision. Big deal.

Mike F.

He was trying to deny violating TRA rules and possibly the law. So you are making his point.

He is not disclosing what he sold clandestinely or before or right after the launch.

Jerry

I don't know who you are talking about but when USR was in CO Springs in

1995 the motors were on the certified list and were being openly and properly sold. No ATF BTW.

Jerry

Jerry,

On what basis have you made these assumptions about Jeff? Have you conducted business with him? Have you even met him?

You see Jerry, my problem with you is not that you have an axe to grind with TRA, I could care less. My problem is that in wielding that axe you do so with such flagrant disregard that you involve anyone and everyone that comes happening by.

That behavior is just irresponsible.

Chuck Mies

Jerry Irvine wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@corp.supernews.com:

His own words in rmr posts. That's pretty authoritative.

Besides my comments while critical of TRA (as usual - with cites), are neutral toward Loki. Loki says what they say. Whatever. TRA has a duty of care they regularly violate. I DO care about that as a NON-MEMBER. In theory members should care exponentially more, but they seem to not.

Jerry

Jerry wrote:

He has an LEMP and DOT EX numbers, those who live in glass houses.........

Mike Fisher

Are you trying to get sued?

Mike F.

Mike Dunkel went to work for a NASA subcontractor.

It's not like he shipped motors marked as model airplane parts.

You think he's you or something?

Used for what?

Required by whom?

I'm stunned that you didn't sell any. Your stuff looked excellent, and I know from the local EX fliers that it's high quality.

Doug Pratt

All the buzz I have heard to date from people WITH first hand experience has been positive. Should be a welcome supplier. Now if only ATF permits could be omitted for all dealers and users of the product . . .

Jerry

Aint gonna happen. Learn to live within the system. Evolve, or die.

Larry