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Kevin, you admitted in an earlier post that you "didn't know of a national BBB database", after saying that they had only one complaint with the BBB. Simple logic, is that you check with your local BBB only.

Learn Google. Learn how to research stuff on the web. See what "outsiders" have to say about how valid these people are.

Look for "AmeriDebt" while you are there - they had commercials all over TV before the Feds shut them down!

It's quite simple if you "charge" $1000 and the merchant gets the $1000, yet you fail to pay the $1000 you borrowed, the CC Company has -$1000 on their books. Why is this such a difficult concept for you to grasp? It's not like the CC Comps just "create" money out of thin air!

It's time for you to research the stuff you should have researched before you got involved with these scam artists (from outsiders who comment after researching the deal in detail).

Seems you got taken for $3500, and probably still have the same debts (go to one of the sites that offer a "free credit report and see what they say)

I did this myself - maybe 9 months back. I got a free credit report from a "well known and respected firm" (there are 3, and I forget which one. Well, there were three things reported which weren't even mine! (I have a VERY common real name). I printed up the "dispute forms" from the same website, and snail-mailed them off. The problems were fixed in a couple months.

Total out-of-pocket cost: 3 stamps, envelopes, and 3 sheets of paper. I'd guess >You created the debt. Don't come here and call people sheep when you paid

When a charge is disputed, the money is usually taken back from the vendor isn't it?

I think that "that depends" based on the time involved. I also think they will contact the vendor and if they have proof it was valid (like a copy of the shipment paperwork), the bank/CC comp has to consider it a loss. With Kevin's scheme, SOMEONE is out the money, be it the vendor, or the investors in the bank/CC company (you're 401K, my 401K, the grandma of the guy next store, your local school board, etc....)

I really think that Kevin is starting to understand that he got screwed, and by his initial post, realize that he was promoting a scheme that others will get screwed.

Let's just see how long it will take him to admit it in public!

"If it sounds too good to be true, it is!"

Ok, let's overlook the ridiculousness of your "banks are creating money" claim, and examine the other ridiculous aspects this. Assuming that banks somehow are creating money, how is that "stealing"? Creating is not stealing.

Secondly, if they loan it to you and you refuse to pay it back, that IS stealing, regardless of how they came up with the funds in the first place. Furthermore, when you accept credit you are agreeing to pay it back. Refusing to do so is not just stealing, it's also breaking your word.

Actually, the vendor has to take it as a loss, not the bank.

If you contest a charge and the vendor cannot provide sufficient evidence that you did indeed receive the services/goods, the vendor eats it, not the bank.

Banks are VERY good at making sure they don't eat losses. 8-}

-Kevin

The value of gold is not tangible...it is arbitrarily decided upon by society. That commodity might have absolutely no intrinsic value at all in a different time or culture. IT's JUST AS MADE UP.

Kevin..

I th> > I think that "that depends" based on the time involved. I also think they

No, I've certainly not been screwed, it's not a scheme, much less MY scheme, no one gets screwed, no one loses ANY money, and anyone else who needs to take advantage of this debt relief opportunity will tell you the same when the process is complete. Go read the testamonials of those who have already gone through it. Call Jane up and ask her about it. All of you protesting have spent next to no time, if any, investigating this from DSI's side. You solely operate from you own preconceived, erroneus notions.

Kevin

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No, I never said that at all. If you'll reread my post, I said I checked a national internet database and saw they had only 1 complaint, which was resolved.

Kevin

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So, you're saying that I can charge $100,000 on my CC, receive $100,000 in services/product, pay no one a dime, and no one is out $100,000?

Geeze... You are lost... either the vendor or the CC company winds up with a -$100,000 on their books! It's "Accounting 100" knowledge!

You view the CC comps as the "big bad company that can eat $100,000", but that's not the case. The CC companies are "owned" by investors. You, me, the guy next store, your church, etc.....

It clear that you're involved in something where:

1) you didn't really research it or 2) you didn't understand what you found and saw this as a way out of your debt!

Ahh, the monster from Jekyll Island. Figure it out and figure who you are feeding. I'll continue as an American.

Ah, yes, in that case, the bank WILL eat it.

I was thinking you were referring to when a customer contests a charge within the terms of the credit agreement. Typically 30 to 90 days.

-Kevin

Hi Scott,

I will just repost it in this reply. Great source of REAL ROCKET information.

As for being called an, "ATF STOOGE", oh if you only knew who I was and my opinions of our government and its less than constitutional motives ... but that is another post for another news group ... bottom line, public safety comes first ... the needs of the many out weighs the needs of the few or the one ... did you not learn ANYTHING from Star Trek II? Hahaha ... ah this is such a bullshit discussion on an even greater bullshit news group ... alas, its just covering time ...

Kevin..

Please post all your active CC numbers here on RMR, along with the extra number on the back.

By doing so, you're stating that they can be used.

We can all charge to them, and get lots of stuff! (JI will probably even buy JI motors!)

You then can claim that the CC comps were just "creating money" in your name, and you don't really owe it, and get out of it. We all get free stuff, and you proved your point, and we are happy!

Hey, I think I'll put the rest of my mortgage on one of the CC's. Hope you have a high enough limit!

The CC comps don't lose anything as they only "created" money....

That is EXACTLY the logic you are using!

Go ahead Kevin.. Prove that you don't owe what was charged on your card because it's "created" money by a banck/CC company!

If it's so easy, why don't you start your own credit card company?

Socialist bull.

Nope. I don't take civics lessons from televised fiction.

Pepper used to be worth it's weight in gold.

John

After the fire so were Aerotech motors.

Tim

ROFL! So true. I was dumb enough to hold onto and fly all my reloads. :-)

John