ATFE Anti-rocketry Video

Dec 21, 2003 313 Replies

Then you erred, badly, in stating "There is no video." as if it were an absolute fact.

Kinda funny that you keep repeating this statement sans evidence, and yet clamor for more evidence about the existence of said video.

Saying that you're basing your conviction upon Jerry's previous failures of prediction does not excuse such irrationality :)

I myself find it mildly ironic that my figures about the effects of launching a salvo of twelve J's from within a van came so close to being "tested" by the ATF... although the salvo was supposed to immediately leave the area of the van and _not_ hang around... ;)

Saying I will revoke my earlier statements if proven wrong is hardly clamoring. Why would I WANT to be proven wrong? My friend told me I wasn't.

Prove to me there are no more dinosaurs.

It is interesting that those who claim there is this video out there of a BATFE faux pas can't seem to provide any type of hard evidence. They are now resorting to hearsay.

For now I am putting these believers down as conspiracy theorists. They might also believe we never landed on the moon. These believers perhaps will cross over to being full-fledged nut cases... ranting on a street corner with foil carefully applied to their heads.

There is no spoon. It is only you that changes.

Alex Mericas wrote:

Alleged failures.

You have predictive skills. :)

I agree.

Your perfect record of inaccuracy is safe.

Let's be very clear. It is CLASSIFIED. By the GOVERNMENT. Releasing it is a "high crime".

The only reason you even heard about it at all was it was sooo fu*king funny even people with security clearances could not stand NOT telling the story. It was a laugh fest for people normally surrounded by bad stuff in their daily lives. Give them a break.

Interesting which government laws you choose to support. Do you have proof that this event is CLASSIFIED? You're digging deeper.

Well you have no proof to back up your assertions, Jerry. We can let this die as it's becoming more certain such an event (BATFE van fire) never occurred. With each passing day the non-conspiracy theorists are given further proof.

further evidence would compromise the source, ergo you will not see it

get over it

- iz

Nozzlehead wrote:

Just so happens I do :)

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I find it interesting Nozzlehead is so fixated on offering FUD on this. He has nothing to offer yet criticizes those who actually do. One wonders if he is engaged in an active disinformation campaign himself, and for whom.

Jerry

they wouldn't allow a U.S. Senator attend the test because of national security issues

I think that its a good bet it's classified

d0h

- iz

Nozzlehead wrote:

He can't trust that either because unless he heard it personally from the Senator's mouth, it is hearsay.

What does that prove? That the ATFE purchased 40 G80 motors, any delay.

My source tells me that the REAL purpose of the tests where to show that APCP motors could explode. They INTENDED to destroy the van but it burned instead of exploding. This is to counter the expected re-instroduction of legislation in the new session of Congress.

Don't bother asking. It's classified, I can't tell. If I told you more it would compromise my source.

I rest my case. I am over it unless you guys come up with some proof.

Actually, the same company that set up the tests did the fake video from the "moon landing". They also handled the autopsies after the Roswell "incident". The master minds behind the plan are the same ones behind both Kennedy assassinations.

Nozzlehead wrote:

Nice try Jerry. Nothing in that link suggests that the torched van incident is classified.

You're still unable to prove a thing.

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